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blubber55
post Jun 3 2015, 01:48 AM
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I am a relative noob, (played about 300 hours, but I guess that still makes me noobish around here).

This one friend of mine, every game what he does is he takes nearby tcs and builds towers, makes very few units but upgrade his towers to the maximum. How do I deal with this?

I tried everything I can think of: going fast heroic for siege (he has a few heroes as hades though and he has the tc/population advantage since he grabbed the tc while I went heroic), rushing his tc with units (they die to the tc fire and his towers) trying to raid him (again his towers with crenalations kills my raiders), trying to intercept his tc forward builders (he brings so many villagers so fast that the tc is up before i can try to deal with it.

Seems like I lose every game to his buildings, its really frustrating. How do I beat it? BTW he is hades usually, but it happened to my vs kronos as well, he took the middle tc and with it map control and i could never get it back from him. Seems like most civs dont have very good classical siege.

Please advise what to do to beat a forward tc grabber/boomer who spams towers and not many units.

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post Jun 3 2015, 02:46 AM
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what god do you play?
Since you're mentioning raiders I'm guessing norse.
If you know he does it évery time just up at 4.30 and kill all his vills before they even get the tc up. Otherwise just ignore the tc and gain contorl over the rest of the map, free hunt for you! Then when you hit heroic go for an attack on his weakest base or just gold control him.
Taking a forward tc is always a very big risk, if he also spends resources on towering it up it means he is much weaker than you on other points so just abuse those

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post Jun 3 2015, 03:42 AM
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Can you provide us with a rec as well maybe?
What Spoeft said basically counts for atty and greek as well.
With eggy you still do the normal poopie anyway, fast heroic and push, but now he also gave u the map away so ur push will even be stronger than what it normally is and u should win easily.

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post Jun 3 2015, 04:17 AM
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It's a pretty simple formula

He's making towers and TCs faster than you can make army to prevent them. So you're being out macroed (macro is how quickly and efficiently you can gather resources to do what you want).

Now grab some build orders and make army so he can't make tcs and towers...

Next point, if someone somehow manages to get 15 towers up on a tc why on earth would you send you army there? There's plenty ways to win this game.

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post Jun 3 2015, 04:47 AM
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You should advance fast and attack him building a tc, but not try preventing it from getting built. Just kill his vills instead. If he buys crenellations then stop raiding and push his second gold mine while getting either a tc or heroic yourself. He spent too much resources on those things, so you should try abusing that. I think this rec pretty much explains everything, so you should definitely watch it:

http://www.rts-sanctuary.com/The-Titans/showtopic=235726

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post Jun 3 2015, 11:10 AM
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You should definitely use siege or myth units which are strong against buildings.

mountain giants(stronger with walking woods, just avoid his heroes and mu, kill them with your other units)
battle boars (attack his main base while you're distracting his army and heroes) (since Greek heroes can't be everywhere so be opportunist)
fire giants(beware of perseus)
rams(mix with your army to tear down tc faster)

Also, don't make suicide attack unless he has siege units that attack you from his base

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post Jun 3 2015, 03:10 PM
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Suicide attacks are always the best option!

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post Jun 3 2015, 11:16 PM
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dont let ur army be idle constantly raid him keep an eye on ur tcs......even if he manages to get towers lame then....try and get siege as soon as possible...FW/FROST siege and army get his buildings+armyonce his army is killed his towers are helpless against ur siege :) but remember to make more than 4 Rams :P

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post Feb 4 2018, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(DoD_Jollyman @ Jun 3 2015, 04:17 AM)
It's a pretty simple formula

He's making towers and TCs faster than you can make army to prevent them. So you're being out macroed (macro is how quickly and efficiently you can gather resources to do what you want).

Now grab some build orders and make army so he can't make tcs and towers...

Next point, if someone somehow manages to get 15 towers up on a tc why on earth would you send you army there? There's plenty ways to win this game.
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good Point

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post Feb 4 2018, 03:29 PM
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Did you just bump a 2 year old topic to say "good Point"?

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post Feb 4 2018, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(Slayer1991 @ Feb 4 2018, 10:40 AM)
QUOTE(DoD_Jollyman @ Jun 3 2015, 04:17 AM)
It's a pretty simple formula

He's making towers and TCs faster than you can make army to prevent them. So you're being out macroed (macro is how quickly and efficiently you can gather resources to do what you want).

Now grab some build orders and make army so he can't make tcs and towers...

Next point, if someone somehow manages to get 15 towers up on a tc why on earth would you send you army there? There's plenty ways to win this game.
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good Point
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post Feb 7 2018, 09:18 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1mLD4ZIlxE
jsut do this to contain him inside his base increase ur apm


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post Feb 7 2018, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(Mirez @ Feb 4 2018, 08:29 PM)
Did you just bump a 2 year old topic to say "good Point"?
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Good point.

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post May 2 2021, 11:14 PM
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good point



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