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kletmestickit
post Oct 23 2021, 09:03 AM
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TheMistaAoE: odin isnt weak , anubites are just broken , everybody went insane bellerophon jumping at 5 sec

anubite 2 sec cool down just rediculous, it should be 5 second!

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post Oct 23 2021, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(kletmestickit @ Oct 23 2021, 03:03 PM)
anubite 2 sec cool down just rediculous, it should be 5 second!
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Anubite has 5 second cooldown time. Cooldown time starts when spec attack animation starts.

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post Oct 23 2021, 10:40 AM
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This should be nerfed - I agree, I asked specifically for this to be nerfed for patch 5.0. The jump timer needs to get increased - it's too strong vs Norse

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post Oct 23 2021, 03:06 PM
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Nah, don't nerf anubites. According to Eggyptian players eggy is trash when they don't win every single tournament/showmatch.

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post Oct 23 2021, 03:22 PM
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Why is Anubite strong against Norse?

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post Oct 23 2021, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(IamGroot @ Oct 24 2021, 06:22 AM)
Why is Anubite strong against Norse?
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Hard to damage Anubite without ranged hero. They move kinda slow but with 5 second jump recharge time they can keep running in and out. It's very similar to centaur except centaur can get chased down.

The real counter to anubis is to hit a good heroic timing. I haven't seen anyone approach defending Anubis correctly with Odin yet unfortunately. For some reason everyone is hell bent on fighting it classical when the powerspike from frost is your best chance to get an advantage in the game.

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post Oct 24 2021, 02:54 AM
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QUOTE(BoIt @ Oct 23 2021, 09:18 PM)
QUOTE(IamGroot @ Oct 24 2021, 06:22 AM)
Why is Anubite strong against Norse?
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Hard to damage Anubite without ranged hero. They move kinda slow but with 5 second jump recharge time they can keep running in and out. It's very similar to centaur except centaur can get chased down.

The real counter to anubis is to hit a good heroic timing. I haven't seen anyone approach defending Anubis correctly with Odin yet unfortunately. For some reason everyone is hell bent on fighting it classical when the powerspike from frost is your best chance to get an advantage in the game.
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Oh yea? Because this is what I used to do in 80% of my games, also giving the map control to eggyptians leads you to face them at the lategame in the best condition (if u survive the anubis/hathor/osiris bs). Against a good isis u won't even be able to use frost, please.

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post Oct 24 2021, 05:33 AM
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well that recharge time on annubites is disgusting, everybody saw how magic kept jumping on mista's vills every 3 secs lmao

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post Oct 24 2021, 06:04 AM
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QUOTE(3antozz @ Oct 24 2021, 11:33 AM)
well that recharge time on annubites is disgusting, everybody saw how magic kept jumping on mista's vills every 3 secs lmao
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This is called good micro.

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post Oct 24 2021, 06:10 AM
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sure it's micro but it's impossible to counter for the opponent which is why it's broken

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post Oct 24 2021, 06:37 AM
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QUOTE(IamGroot @ Oct 24 2021, 06:04 AM)
QUOTE(3antozz @ Oct 24 2021, 11:33 AM)
well that recharge time on annubites is disgusting, everybody saw how magic kept jumping on mista's vills every 3 secs lmao
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This is called good micro.
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good micro? any player without parkinsons can do it, its just right click on villager, walk away 3 seconds, right click on villager, walk away 3 seconds, repeat

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post Oct 24 2021, 06:39 AM
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Why not just undo these buffs:
Necropolis' favor gathering boost for Monuments increased from +10% to +30%.
Feet of the Jackal's cost reduced from 200G 10Fv to 100G 5Fv.


I don't remember anubites being op on no patch, nerfing cooldown is a lazy way to solve things imho.

Anubis has already been buffed a lot in other ways:
Sea Snake's hack armor increased from 5% to 30% and pierce armor increased from 20% to 35%.
Serpent's hack armor increased from 15% to 30% and pierce armor increased from 20% to 35%.
Serpent Spear's cost reduced from 250F 12Fv to 175F 10Fv.


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post Oct 24 2021, 07:53 AM
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Give Norse ranged hero. Let Hersir have special ability to throw their hammer at MU. Hehe

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post Oct 24 2021, 07:57 AM
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QUOTE(Jo.G @ Oct 24 2021, 07:39 AM)
Why not just undo these buffs:
Necropolis' favor gathering boost for Monuments increased from +10% to +30%.   
Feet of the Jackal's cost reduced from 200G 10Fv to 100G 5Fv.


I don't remember anubites being op on no patch, nerfing cooldown is a lazy way to solve things imho.

Anubis has already been buffed a lot in other ways:
Sea Snake's hack armor increased from 5% to 30% and pierce armor increased from 20% to 35%.     
Serpent's hack armor increased from 15% to 30% and pierce armor increased from 20% to 35%.   
Serpent Spear's cost reduced from 250F 12Fv to 175F 10Fv.

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I think that anubites are too abusive against Norse and should receive a slight nerf, but allow me to play devil’s advocate:

1. The map pool currently favors Odin quite a bit. Many maps are high hunt and allow him to easily afford hersir (especially as long as Odin does not make the mistake of overproducing RC). Odin is also much stronger on 5.0 than pre patch so it’s not like Anubis received these buffs and Odin was left in the dust.

2. By the time Isis purchases necropolis, feet of the jackal and gets out 2-3 anubites total, Odin can already have 2tc and some walls guaranteed. These Anubis techs are gold intensive, take a long time to research (they feel quite long - I don’t actually know the numbers) and the resources required of the techs and the two monuments really delays isis from booming early on.

I think feet of the jackal is too cheap, and the special cooldown could be nerfed slightly. I agree that now that AE was reverted it doesn’t make sense for isis to have two paths of destruction against Odin.

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post Oct 24 2021, 11:31 AM
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Eggys has always been counter pick vs norses,and i think is that is the point of this game,x civ is stronger vs this but weaker vs x civ.But now seeing the case of Odin vs Anubis(Thor/loki have more ways to deal with it) its kind of broken because theres no way to counter it 100% even having hersir near the vills cause they're too slow to hit them.Only with this u will have some vills killed,and with the hathor coming while this Odin indeed have 0 form to deal with Isis with weaker eco and army.There must be some type of change that keeps anubis counter Odin,but this have some way to keep in the game



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