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XRaduxjm vs KanKrusha, Chaos vs Orks on Siwal Frontier
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KanKrusha
post Oct 12 2010, 02:03 PM
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Team 1
(IMG:./images/races/dow2/chaos.jpg) XRaduxjm
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(IMG:./images/races/dow2/orks.jpg) KanKrusha
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Game Details:
Game Version: DOW II 2.4.0 Victory Condition: Victory Point Control
Game Type: Rated Match Length: Average (10-30 minutes)
Played: 13 Oct 10 Winner:
Map: Siwal Frontier (2) File Size (zipped): 98.7KB
Saved Name: DSII_805_XRaduxj_v_KanKrus
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Hi All

Me = Blue Warboss, TS 16
Radux = chaos lord, TS 18
Game duration 16:53

I haven't posted in a while as I had a 2 week oholiday an dthen it took another 2 weeks to get back up to where I felt my previous skill level was!

This is a good example of my main problem - losing units. I have been really struggling to understand why this happens - bad positioning, poor targetting, picking bad fights, staying in combat too long or all of the above.

I think in this game I picked some bad fights and stayed in combat too long with the result that to get out of mellee I retreated which was even worse.

I was trying a slugga-slugga-shoota-loota build cause I wanted to try out lootas but I forgot that I needed double shootas to deal with chaos :(

This game died due to a disconnect (network not deliberate I think) but I am pretty sure I would have lost although Nobs were on the way.

Thanks for any help


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Dalr0n
post Oct 13 2010, 11:37 AM
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Ok as I have played orks a reasonable amount, I'll give u a few hints. Never ever ever never go double slugga's vs a Chaos player especially not a Chaos Lord player :D. The standard build for orks these days is x1 slugga x2 shoota's (big shoota's). Get angrybitz for your Warboss first and let him go into combat first as u don't wanna nock your units down just his :D.use the shootas to force off Heretics and the Chaos Lord. Never engage ur slugga's with standard heretics they will munch u without any globals and u don't wanna just be blowing them constantly as u will need em later. Sluggas are more then fine to engage grenade launcher heretics just be careful for a barrage.

Once in T2 I would get Stormboyz and The Claw for my Warboss as well nobz on all squads currently active. Also get a war trukk put ur sluggas in it and drive up to any Heavy weapon teams in the game and gank em. You'll be able to reinforce your units that are close to the war trukk so take advantage of this. Set ur Warboss with his BIG CLAW on any Heroes and tanks that come your way as he should own them without needing globals but don't be afraid to use one now and again.

Stormboyz are amazing with a nob for causing chaos. As they stun on landing a Jump and do alot of damage to standard infantry so hunt some down with them :P. Shoota's are pretty much good against anything cept Tanks and Heavily armored troops. You can also get stikk's if your facing a Swarm Army (Tyranids, Orks) they do lots of dmg placed right they can wipe out whole squads who aren't paying attention.

I would go to T3 avoiding Deff dread's Tankbusta's unless they are really needed and weirdboy. Once in T3 get Nobz never ever purchase the Loota tank it is so bad and such a waste of REQ and POWER, once you have Nobz They can take on pretty much anything, but not Super units like Assault terminators, Great Unclean one or an Avatar without Upgrades. Get every Upgrade for them, this is pretty pricey but its damn worth it.

That is the basic tips, the rest must come from you as you learn nothing by simply reading this experience is the best way to learn as I know :P Good luck

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post Oct 13 2010, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(Dalr0n @ Oct 14 2010, 05:37 AM)
vs a Chaos player ...
Stormboyz are amazing with a nob for causing chaos.
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I see what you did there :D :D

Thanks for the tips. I have just realised that I suck at using Sluggas! I almost always do a 2 shoota build so I haven't noticed this before.

Any tips on gettng out of a bad melee without hitting retreat? I seem to be in a bad habit of charging in to melee and then trying to retreat out - oh, dead sluggas. :oops:

Maybe I need to work on not getting surrounded in melee.

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experience is the best way to learn


Very true. I feel I am a bit stuck making the same mistakes over again and not seeing what they are. I think it all relates to melee and mostly getting caught in a melee I should be avoiding.



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