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Iamthemaxxx
post Feb 19 2020, 04:17 PM
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How are Thor/Odin supossed to counter the hip+tox+heroes greek combo on classical? Raiders and ulfs cost food unlike hip + tox since the latter cost wood.

Should ulf + hersir + wall + towers + fast heroic? :blink:

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post Feb 19 2020, 04:22 PM
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typically mass RC, but you dont want to be fighting greek up front, you will likely lose the fight 95% of the time.

you need alot of good snipes and surrounds, good positioning is key as norse.

what the real question should be is how do you deal with a greek classical fight? rather than looking in your own classical age you need to go heroic at a decent timing, get hill fort and frost his army to secure gold.

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post Feb 19 2020, 04:58 PM
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Odin has better food collection, dwarfs are op getting gold, so spaming units and killing greek iddle units it's the key

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post Feb 19 2020, 08:21 PM
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just focus on micro, run with horses non stop when the archers hit them, so they cant hit while you atack with other units his army so its adventage you

i like to do ulfsarks carvely combo, and going catch his units in the midways, its realy good because if there is mass of like 8 archers then the carvely kick in and if there is hoplites then ulfsarks do good vs them. also both of the units realy good vs archers. OFC take the speed up for ulfsarks.

i think you just need fast up time, like 4:02 in hight hunt maps and then make good army combo as fast as possible so you can abuse it and the greeek player will be busy for long time before he can get his army together and actualy presure you with restro.

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post Mar 11 2020, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(Sloop90 @ Feb 20 2020, 03:21 AM)
just focus on micro, run with horses non stop when the archers hit them, so they cant hit while you atack with other units his army so its adventage you

i like to do ulfsarks carvely combo, and going catch his units in the midways, its realy good because if there is mass of like 8 archers then the carvely kick in and if there is hoplites then ulfsarks do good vs them. also both of the units realy good vs archers. OFC take the speed up for ulfsarks.

i think you just need fast up time, like 4:02 in hight hunt maps and then make good army combo as fast as possible so you can abuse it and the greeek player will be busy for long time before he can get his army together and actualy presure you with restro.
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Do you think that Odin or thor is a better god in general?

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post Mar 13 2020, 06:19 AM
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Key to Norse is flanks as there ranged units are not fantastic. Full rc will beat hip+tox in open like in middle of ghost lake but on a map like alpheim this becomes alot harder to do. Againt hermes if greek are making tox you want to keep raiding trying to keep them in defence and pick off any units walking across map.

Vs Athena you dont want to fight a full army restoration so try get heroic around 10-11min through skadi or bragi for loki. You freeze there army and make hill fort start spamming those huskarls that make those toxotes useless. Should make army at first to help keep hunt for a while, greek army takes a while to get strong.

Hope this helps :thumbsup:

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post Apr 2 2020, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(Lord Antares @ Mar 11 2020, 06:52 PM)
QUOTE(Sloop90 @ Feb 20 2020, 03:21 AM)
just focus on micro, run with horses non stop when the archers hit them, so they cant hit while you atack with other units his army so its adventage you

i like to do ulfsarks carvely combo, and going catch his units in the midways, its realy good because if there is mass of like 8 archers then the carvely kick in and if there is hoplites then ulfsarks do good vs them. also both of the units realy good vs archers. OFC take the speed up for ulfsarks.


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-in classical, I would like to know how you can make effectively a army of ulf+RC and meanwhile making civ from tc , all units eat a lot of food.

-Odin/ Thor have nice bonus, the matter is the norse civ, one of the reason why it's a long time no one pro norse win a tourney.

I am not telling they are bad players, on the contrary in my opinion if they switched main to use Greeks or Ra, skillful wise alone against a lot in top level, they may also manage to win 1vs 2.

They are just hardcore players, OdinKing is a example

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post Apr 4 2020, 03:42 AM
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Odin is actualy one of the strongewt gods atm. The proove is mista odin masscred players like maguc zeus on kimo ra and that was in time of old patch where ra was op and norse was worse.

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post Apr 4 2020, 04:01 AM
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Wall up, raid, get watch towers. You have to get heroic age before moving to your second gold mine so budget for that or you'll probably lose there most of the time.

If they are hermes then 1 TC ragnorak is a win condition at 12 mins. So try not to fight, frost their army on second gold mine if they attack and wall up around it with a hill fort then rag with full pop army and go for their gold mines.

If they are athena, you need get like 5-10 RC out (lose none of these, very important) and raid his villagers on hunt and try and hit any reinforcements that are running to the main army. Make throwing axemen in mass next to 115 pop and hide in your base. You should be able to get to heroic age if you do it right and frost their army yet again when going for second gold mine (or bragi works as well).

It is much easier for Zeus to play the match up than Odin and I think good hermes play is next to impossible for Odin to beat but there aren't many people on that level. Athena is also easier to execute than to defend against... so you've got it tough.

Another thing to note is, if you need to fight him you will not be able to get to the heroic age so you want to get Valkyrie out after the fight and raid with them/pick off reinforcements. If you can get out a lot of Valks chances are you can do some real damage.

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post Apr 4 2020, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(Sloop90 @ Apr 4 2020, 03:42 AM)
Odin is actualy one of the strongewt gods atm. The proove is mista odin masscred players like maguc zeus on kimo ra and that was in time of old patch where ra was op and norse was worse.
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Mista is another case of harcore player and as I told before, if he switch more to use others gods he may win also 1 vs 2, so good he is skilled.

It's a quite time I dont see he play, for what I remind a total domination or massacre in his match ups is a little esagerate.
in a battle of first to reach first 3 wins, he will lose at the end, but yeah I admit he made a lot of times one or sometimes two playing perfectly, scouting/ predict is his forte since always, and odin help here also too.

Then you dont answer me how you can use RC+Ulf in classic, cause you are a TOTAL NOOB (such as me, but you demonstrate u have ever used/ not played a lot Odin ).

Bolt answer instead of you, and give a good suggestion for all and demonstrate he used Odin, but as told from him against some top tier god it isnt a really a fair match up, fattible but not easy.

Thanks for it Bolt.

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