blubber55 |
Jun 3 2015, 01:48 AM
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Lance Corporal Group: Members Posts: 72 AOM Replays: 0 Submissions: None Joined: 30-September 07 Member No.: 59,149 |
I am a relative noob, (played about 300 hours, but I guess that still makes me noobish around here). This one friend of mine, every game what he does is he takes nearby tcs and builds towers, makes very few units but upgrade his towers to the maximum. How do I deal with this? I tried everything I can think of: going fast heroic for siege (he has a few heroes as hades though and he has the tc/population advantage since he grabbed the tc while I went heroic), rushing his tc with units (they die to the tc fire and his towers) trying to raid him (again his towers with crenalations kills my raiders), trying to intercept his tc forward builders (he brings so many villagers so fast that the tc is up before i can try to deal with it. Seems like I lose every game to his buildings, its really frustrating. How do I beat it? BTW he is hades usually, but it happened to my vs kronos as well, he took the middle tc and with it map control and i could never get it back from him. Seems like most civs dont have very good classical siege. Please advise what to do to beat a forward tc grabber/boomer who spams towers and not many units. |
[DoD]SpOefT |
Jun 3 2015, 02:46 AM
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SpOefT, the legend © Group: AoT Gosu Posts: 21,562 AOM Replays: 1,032 Submissions: None Joined: 10-February 04 From: Belgium, holy land Member No.: 3,596 |
what god do you play? Since you're mentioning raiders I'm guessing norse. If you know he does it évery time just up at 4.30 and kill all his vills before they even get the tc up. Otherwise just ignore the tc and gain contorl over the rest of the map, free hunt for you! Then when you hit heroic go for an attack on his weakest base or just gold control him. Taking a forward tc is always a very big risk, if he also spends resources on towering it up it means he is much weaker than you on other points so just abuse those |
mg_indivision |
Jun 3 2015, 03:42 AM
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Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 164 AOM Replays: 14 Submissions: None Joined: 1-July 11 From: Belgium Member No.: 108,175 |
Can you provide us with a rec as well maybe? What Spoeft said basically counts for atty and greek as well. With eggy you still do the normal poopie anyway, fast heroic and push, but now he also gave u the map away so ur push will even be stronger than what it normally is and u should win easily. |
DoD_Jollyman |
Jun 3 2015, 04:17 AM
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The Village Drunk Group: GOTW Reviewer Posts: 17,068 AOM Replays: 168 Submissions: None Joined: 6-March 09 Member No.: 73,834 |
It's a pretty simple formula He's making towers and TCs faster than you can make army to prevent them. So you're being out macroed (macro is how quickly and efficiently you can gather resources to do what you want). Now grab some build orders and make army so he can't make tcs and towers... Next point, if someone somehow manages to get 15 towers up on a tc why on earth would you send you army there? There's plenty ways to win this game. |
DoD_J4Jc3 |
Jun 3 2015, 04:47 AM
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The Rag Master Group: Members Posts: 15,028 AOM Replays: 150 Submissions: None Joined: 1-May 06 From: Belgium Member No.: 37,529 Gamertag: [DoD]J4Jc3 |
You should advance fast and attack him building a tc, but not try preventing it from getting built. Just kill his vills instead. If he buys crenellations then stop raiding and push his second gold mine while getting either a tc or heroic yourself. He spent too much resources on those things, so you should try abusing that. I think this rec pretty much explains everything, so you should definitely watch it: http://www.rts-sanctuary.com/The-Titans/showtopic=235726 |
mr.punk |
Jun 3 2015, 11:10 AM
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Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 163 AOM Replays: 4 Submissions: None Joined: 5-May 15 Member No.: 119,192 |
You should definitely use siege or myth units which are strong against buildings. mountain giants(stronger with walking woods, just avoid his heroes and mu, kill them with your other units) battle boars (attack his main base while you're distracting his army and heroes) (since Greek heroes can't be everywhere so be opportunist) fire giants(beware of perseus) rams(mix with your army to tear down tc faster) Also, don't make suicide attack unless he has siege units that attack you from his base This post has been edited by mr.punk: Jun 3 2015, 11:12 AM |
Lordblub |
Jun 3 2015, 03:10 PM
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2nd Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 492 AOM Replays: 68 Submissions: None Joined: 23-June 10 Member No.: 104,376 |
Suicide attacks are always the best option! |
IamGoDDy |
Jun 3 2015, 11:16 PM
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Colonel Group: GOTW Reviewer Posts: 1,705 AOM Replays: 92 Submissions: None Joined: 6-August 14 From: Islamabad, Pakistan Member No.: 117,313 Gamertag: [UCA]IFearGoDDy |
dont let ur army be idle constantly raid him keep an eye on ur tcs......even if he manages to get towers lame then....try and get siege as soon as possible...FW/FROST siege and army get his buildings+armyonce his army is killed his towers are helpless against ur siege :) but remember to make more than 4 Rams :P |
Slayer1991 |
Feb 4 2018, 10:40 AM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 2 AOM Replays: 0 Submissions: None Joined: 17-April 16 From: Germany Member No.: 121,090 |
QUOTE(DoD_Jollyman @ Jun 3 2015, 04:17 AM) It's a pretty simple formula He's making towers and TCs faster than you can make army to prevent them. So you're being out macroed (macro is how quickly and efficiently you can gather resources to do what you want). Now grab some build orders and make army so he can't make tcs and towers... Next point, if someone somehow manages to get 15 towers up on a tc why on earth would you send you army there? There's plenty ways to win this game. good Point |
Mirez |
Feb 4 2018, 03:29 PM
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Grand Hustle Pimp Group: Members Posts: 16,283 AOM Replays: 98 Submissions: None Joined: 12-October 06 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 46,031 Gamertag: IamMirezNL |
Did you just bump a 2 year old topic to say "good Point"? |
kye |
Feb 4 2018, 07:52 PM
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Major Group: Members Posts: 1,041 AOM Replays: 13 Submissions: None Joined: 29-September 13 Member No.: 113,842 |
QUOTE(Slayer1991 @ Feb 4 2018, 10:40 AM) QUOTE(DoD_Jollyman @ Jun 3 2015, 04:17 AM) It's a pretty simple formula He's making towers and TCs faster than you can make army to prevent them. So you're being out macroed (macro is how quickly and efficiently you can gather resources to do what you want). Now grab some build orders and make army so he can't make tcs and towers... Next point, if someone somehow manages to get 15 towers up on a tc why on earth would you send you army there? There's plenty ways to win this game. good Point |
MAXO |
Feb 7 2018, 09:18 AM
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Cadet Group: Members Posts: 22 AOM Replays: 0 Submissions: None Joined: 15-December 15 From: INDIA Member No.: 120,415 Gamertag: SUPER SAYAN GOD |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1mLD4ZIlxE jsut do this to contain him inside his base increase ur apm |
DoD_Nakamura |
Feb 7 2018, 10:53 AM
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Field-Marshal Group: Members Posts: 8,992 AOM Replays: 918 Submissions: None Joined: 24-February 11 From: Hungary Member No.: 107,079 Gamertag: Nakamuray14 |
QUOTE(Mirez @ Feb 4 2018, 08:29 PM) Good point. |
stevewashere |
May 2 2021, 11:14 PM
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Cadet Group: Members Posts: 20 AOM Replays: 4 Submissions: None Joined: 26-July 17 Member No.: 122,621 |
good point |
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