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Should we ban russian players from tournaments?
 
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IamGroot
post Apr 26 2022, 11:26 AM
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Russian players are currently being banned from Meta-Plays tournaments.
"In light of NATO sanctions against Russia, we will not be paying out prizes to Russian competitors."
https://meta-plays.com/tournaments/age-of-m...nal-frost-r867/

I say we have to finish discrimination and unban all russian players. Vote for "No"

Don't bring back Nazi Germany.

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post Apr 26 2022, 11:32 AM
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Couldnt agree more. I'd understand it if they were representing their country in an international competition, but these are individuals who happen to be from Russia. Can't say I see the point of this.

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Hagrit
post Apr 26 2022, 11:58 AM
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just fyi, the current rule is only prizes wont be paid out to russian players, and instead will be donate to help ukranian refugees. nothing about banning them from playing.

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post Apr 26 2022, 12:10 PM
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the russians deserve their money who cares about giving it to the ukrananians

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post Apr 26 2022, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(Hagrit @ Apr 26 2022, 05:58 PM)
just fyi, the current rule is only prizes wont be paid out to russian players, and instead will be donate to help ukranian refugees. nothing about banning them from playing.
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Russians can play, but can't win money. It's discrimination and very illogical.
If russians players win, ukranian refugees get money.
If russians players don't win, ukranian refugees stay poor.
If NATO players win, ukranian refugees stay poor.
Will players from NATO fight for Ukraine?
No. They just pretending to be a good guys.
I suggest a better alternative rule:
Players from NATO countries don't get any money. Ukranian refugees get it.
Players from all other countries get money.
It would be much better for ukranian refugees. Am I right?

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post Apr 26 2022, 12:41 PM
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As you may be aware, NATO countries' banks block payments to Russian accounts. This includes the banks used for Meta payments, as well as Paypal.
We decided to not go out of our way to go around it. Instead, we are offering Russian players a way to help with the situation in Ukraine if they so choose.
The rule may not be perfect, but it does send a message: end the war, and hold Russia accountable for the war crimes they are committing.

If people want to discuss further options, such as charity tournaments, then let's have that conversation. Nothing is ever final, and some things may be on the table.

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post Apr 26 2022, 03:56 PM
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HOT NEWS : Russian economy crumbles and putin give order to retreat after russian player nullus suspended from winning 100 euro every month

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post Apr 26 2022, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(3antozz @ Apr 26 2022, 03:56 PM)
HOT NEWS : Russian economy crumbles and putin give order to retreat after russian player nullus suspended from winning 100 euro every month
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LOL

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post Apr 26 2022, 09:46 PM
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This is really not something to be outraged about, that's the reality of today's world. Sad for people who are not supporting the war, I hope to believe none of our players support it, however the sanctions have a reason and this is not some "Putin" problem, this is a systemic problem Russians are causing to themselves and they should also end it themselves. I understand not everyone is brave enough to stand tall and it's easy talk not being in it, but at that point you have to accept you're coresponsible for what's going on by enabling the regime. It's a tough and complicated thing, but the ways to solve this via means targeting the leading elite are gone, the people need to understand this needs to end, and apparently it can only be done by touching things they like from the west, instead of appealing to common sense and decency (yeah propaganda is nasty thing and it does fool people (rather easily), but like, that doesn't absolve you, think for a bit what makes sense).

Tbh the guys trying to go out of their way to facilitate this and go around directives would be straight crazy (and actually irresponsible).

Maybe it could be just held for them for when situation gets a bit more manageable, unless a clearer message was decided to be sent (however at that point it's a bit double-sided to even let them play).

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post Apr 27 2022, 08:47 AM
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So much racism in this page... discrimination towards racial group ? Dont give money to russian , are we REPEATING black slavery there? Russian have to play for free like blacks in plantation in 18 century? Im very , very disapointed of you nakamura , I'm half jewish so half my ancestor crying right now reading you , shame

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post Apr 27 2022, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(DoD_Nakamura @ Apr 26 2022, 06:41 PM)
As you may be aware, NATO countries' banks block payments to Russian accounts. This includes the banks used for Meta payments, as well as Paypal.


I have an idea. Perhaps Mor can send money from Israel to Russia. Organizers send money to Mor, Mor send money to Russia.

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post Apr 27 2022, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(IamGroot @ Apr 27 2022, 01:52 PM)
QUOTE(DoD_Nakamura @ Apr 26 2022, 06:41 PM)
As you may be aware, NATO countries' banks block payments to Russian accounts. This includes the banks used for Meta payments, as well as Paypal.


I have an idea. Perhaps Mor can send money from Israel to Russia. Organizers send money to Mor, Mor send money to Russia.
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11 I dont know how it works but since israel is not part of nato perhaps its possible in the theory.
Practicely i will want 5%tax for my hard work as a money trader
Elseway I dont do the job :lol:

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post Apr 27 2022, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(Mor_legendary @ Apr 27 2022, 02:06 PM)
QUOTE(IamGroot @ Apr 27 2022, 01:52 PM)
QUOTE(DoD_Nakamura @ Apr 26 2022, 06:41 PM)
As you may be aware, NATO countries' banks block payments to Russian accounts. This includes the banks used for Meta payments, as well as Paypal.


I have an idea. Perhaps Mor can send money from Israel to Russia. Organizers send money to Mor, Mor send money to Russia.
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11 I dont know how it works but since israel is not part of nato perhaps its possible in the theory.
Practicely i will want 5%tax for my hard work as a money trader
Elseway I dont do the job :lol:
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mor you must ask for mor, at least 50% tax when you consider your hard work

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post Apr 28 2022, 04:13 AM
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QUOTE(Mor_legendary @ Apr 27 2022, 08:06 PM)
QUOTE(IamGroot @ Apr 27 2022, 01:52 PM)
QUOTE(DoD_Nakamura @ Apr 26 2022, 06:41 PM)
As you may be aware, NATO countries' banks block payments to Russian accounts. This includes the banks used for Meta payments, as well as Paypal.


I have an idea. Perhaps Mor can send money from Israel to Russia. Organizers send money to Mor, Mor send money to Russia.
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11 I dont know how it works but since israel is not part of nato perhaps its possible in the theory.
Practicely i will want 5%tax for my hard work as a money trader
Elseway I dont do the job :lol:
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You deserve the 5%. Israel didn't join to sanctions against Russia, but you should ask information from the customer service of your bank via e-mail, whether transactions to Russia are possible or not.

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post Apr 28 2022, 10:54 AM
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$125.000 AOE4 tournament with russian participant:
https://liquipedia.net/ageofempires/Golden_League
$10.000 AOE2 tournament with russian participant:
https://liquipedia.net/ageofempires/Rage_Forest/3
$1500 AOM tournament with russian participant:
https://liquipedia.net/ageofempires/Masters_Of_Mythology

and a
$300 Meta-Plays AOM tournament where russian participants don't get their prizes. :excl: :excl: :excl: :excl: :excl:

It's sad.



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