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Ippert
post Apr 4 2021, 08:27 AM
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Hotfix on the 4th of April.
Recorded games which had a Ra in it played on the patch the past week are most likely finnicky and probably broken.

• Ra - Rain no longer increases Laborer's wood gather rate by 50%.

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post Apr 4 2021, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(Ippert @ Apr 4 2021, 05:27 AM)
Hotfix on the 4th of April.
Recorded games which had a Ra in it played on the patch the past week are most likely finnicky and probably broken.

• Ra - Rain no longer increases Laborer's wood gather rate by 50%.
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Good fix after seeing how broken it could be.

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post Apr 4 2021, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(MasterOfFreedom @ Mar 31 2021, 11:59 PM)
Let's be honest, a game dies when it doesn't see change or anything exciting happen in it for a while. How do those situations occur? Well for one, the official developers stop working on the game. The last official update to TT was 1.03, so somewhere like 17 years ago. So from there, it is solely on the community to provide this stimulus, right? Things like RTSL, XpT's Clan Wars, other clans, and their events, etc... So let's fast forward to the end of ESO when the certificate for the ESO servers expired. The game was carried on by things like Game Ranger and Voobly, not to mention tunnels like hamachi. These just allow the game to continue on, but it's still the community that carries the game. We should note that the "dying" of the game started long before this. Why? Mainly because once you stop getting official support it becomes much harder to maintain interest.

So the Voobly era continues on, things like clan events and RTSL are still going on, not to mention RTSS tournaments, etc... However, even back then (2011-2013?) people were saying how "dead" the game was and pointing fingers. So then we fast forward to the launch of EE, big flop, really saddening really. This was a great opportunity to bring life back into the Age of Mythology brand again, but needless to say, it didn't go as planned. Stuff happens. This community has undergone many hardships in its multiple journeys to revitalize, but I think we all know this can only happen if we get a new title (MythDE?) that we can all migrate to and rejoin the community once more. The splitting of the community really accelerated its decline as well, because Voobly was doing some nice things at the time, but once EE came out, most of those efforts got abandoned in hopes of EE being the savior, and when it wasn't, we lost a lot of that momentum.

So fast forward to today. This game is no more dying than it has been due to the external factors mentioned above. What we do have is a limited few who dedicate their free time to making stimulating events for the community. RTSL, RTSS Tournaments, Show matches, and yes, even the VBP. You may disagree with what the VPB does or how it does it, but it surely isn't "killing" the game any more than it is already killed. If you don't like the patches, do not play them, it is that simple. There was a time when the VPB was forced on the community, but that is no longer the case, and nor should it be. These are community patches, by the community for the community. Take them or leave them it does not matter, it is simply what it is. Could the VBP be better, do things differently, etc...? of course, by no means are they perfect. They follow a vision and the team that makes it furthers that vision. But the sentiment of the community that they are helpless in changing things within the game is really just ignorant. How has the game been kept alive since 2004? Via community efforts.

This goes for any community you are apart of, but as long as you are apart of the community, you have the power to influence it and make changes. But of course, this is on you to do so. Everything we have right now was created by a community member, so why do so many people think it is impossible to do things for the community? There have been many calls to action over the years, but time and time again they go unanswered. That is fine, not everyone has the free time to dedicate, etc... but then pointing the finger at those who have dedicated their time and saying "you are the cause of the death of this game" is really just incorrect.

So let me reiterate, the state of the game is a result of everyone's actions in the community, not just a select few. We all have the power to change it.
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Is the question when did this game start dying? I know the exact moment. It was Aot expansion which in 1 year since it came it killed halve of the community.

Aom had lots of more players that went flying directly to AOC and some stayed in Aom. Why did the community run with Aot? Because of the green buttom, lots of the good players of aom really hated the little micro that was needed to play Aot. They also didnt like anything the ora era, that era ended with this patches, 5.0 is part of the Ra era (I dont like this era either). In fact the problem was worst, aom players 1/3 of the community stayed in aom and that game doesnt exist. We treat Aom/t as they are the same game. It is because all aom died.

Because after Aot expansion came, as always microsoft won the money and run out.

But the game was rescued by game ranger in which it has really good n. even today and voobly.

We have to understand a crucial point, voobly is not an aot created tool. Its an AOC created tool in which they lets us live. The AOC community and more than community the staff of AOC have developed projects, have gone into steam really hard, with people with years of experience and has adapted inifinitly better than aom/t community and staff.

Voobly Aom staff hasnt been the best staff ive seen in a game, and when I talk about the staff I dont talk about just the mods, it also includes the staff of this forum and the patch direction. It has never wanted to find developers to build an own system as voobly or game ranger which has made us dependent, I know it as mod. This staff hasnt even wanted to try to make the n. of players bigger, maybe not as mods responsables but as community members that want the best for the game, they just have let it be. Today a mod in voobly has no competences to do nothing, just banning flammers which is a stupid tool, flammers can play this game and be who they are.

Because its not true that we all have the same responsability in the direction of the game, there are people responsable of the direction that voobly has followed, you as part of that people can like it more or less, but I who couldnt make a single change as mod because I didnt have the tools for it (relationships, and years in direction) cant be compared with staff members that have been 10 years relying in what community players as Madara (an spanish speaking guy who tells everybody to play voobly) or me myself do making people come to the game while they stream games make 1 good RTSL per year and dont have any iniciative.

By the way the n.s of people coming to play voobly have only gone down less when coronavirus came. I remember first years getting to 400 players as there wasnt other server with rtd more than voobly. But as I say staff just didnt lead this well. Well in my view point it wasnt lead at all it was just managed in survival mod.

Coming back to the patch. I as Cronos im mad at this patch, I hear sweet words but there is no real interest in making Cronos playable and that as cronos player is frustrating. I like my god, but today it has no viability.

I admit I was so mad I didnt even see the good issues being done with Gaia. Thor hasnt change too much but its ok.

I just saw the Cronos big problematic for me and the fake changes of eggies, I put a list of 6 big problems of RA just a bit mercs has been touched, its not enough, really it isnt.

So I would like changes, real changes in staff in the total view of what balancing is because Joe is correct, the nerfing patches are not good, they were never good it has been a ``running in circles`` issue in a wrong circle, this game needs patches that make a rising balance not nerfing but buffing without becoming this a crazy game (you may think I cant say that a Dod is correct xD they are really smart in fact, thats why they are the clan rulling this game =P).

In the cultural sphere and in general in nearly everything.

But I dont see this changes coming.

Pst: I want to remind spanish speakers etc want an space in this forum, its really frustrating writting long texts always in a language that is not mine, I have the luck that I can write in english (with my limits), many friends and members of the community cant and dont have a place were they can speak with the voices being heard by the staff. More than 50% of the community has no place here. So no, not everybody is responsable.

By the way if I have gramatical errors, sorry, the gigantic language barrier, ill try to explain myself better. If you dont understand something or whatever.

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post Apr 5 2021, 01:25 AM
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nou, ik ben van de nederlandse community. en ik voel me ook wel wat gediscrimineerd. ik wil ook best een modje worden maar dat gaat dan gewoon ook even niet. Waarom? Omdat de mods gewoon anti nederlands zijn. kan er ook niks aan doen. maar hopelijk horen jullie het nederlandse volk nou uiteindelijk wel eens een keertje. we willen ook wel af en toe mee doen maar dat gaat niet als die vieze gorige dods het forum en voobly runnen. weg met die walgelijke stront eters.

Ik hoop dat de community gewoon even heel effe lekker gewoon normaal gaat doen, dat is alles. geen discriminatie meer, dat vinden we gewoon niet gewoon.

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post Apr 5 2021, 03:27 AM
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QUOTE(KeeN_baller @ Apr 5 2021, 06:25 AM)
nou, ik ben van de nederlandse community. en ik voel me ook wel wat gediscrimineerd. ik wil ook best een modje worden maar dat gaat dan gewoon ook even niet. Waarom? Omdat de mods gewoon anti nederlands zijn. kan er ook niks aan doen. maar hopelijk horen jullie het nederlandse volk nou uiteindelijk wel eens een keertje. we willen ook wel af en toe mee doen maar dat gaat niet als die vieze gorige dods het forum en voobly runnen. weg met die walgelijke stront eters.

Ik hoop dat de community gewoon even heel effe lekker gewoon normaal gaat doen, dat is alles. geen discriminatie meer, dat vinden we gewoon niet gewoon.
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I respect you dont want a space in the forum where you can speak your language.

But spanish community is near to 30%-40% of the people in this game in voobly, more than halve that cant speak english. Having a sub-section of languages is not crazy we would finally have a forum where to send those players that have problems or want to play of anything and where they would be attended. I could make the 5th spanish forum apart and try to help them with limited tools and in a place where they would be irrelevant to the game in voobly, but we are tired of that.

Also I dont have any problem in you or who you want being a mod of your language section or whatever.

Im sorry mods are anti-dutch. Hope you can integrate better your language and your clans into the game.

Make dutch great again :rolleyes:

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post Apr 5 2021, 04:49 AM
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QUOTE(KeeN_baller @ Apr 5 2021, 07:25 AM)
nou, ik ben van de nederlandse community. en ik voel me ook wel wat gediscrimineerd. ik wil ook best een modje worden maar dat gaat dan gewoon ook even niet. Waarom? Omdat de mods gewoon anti nederlands zijn. kan er ook niks aan doen. maar hopelijk horen jullie het nederlandse volk nou uiteindelijk wel eens een keertje. we willen ook wel af en toe mee doen maar dat gaat niet als die vieze gorige dods het forum en voobly runnen. weg met die walgelijke stront eters.

Ik hoop dat de community gewoon even heel effe lekker gewoon normaal gaat doen, dat is alles. geen discriminatie meer, dat vinden we gewoon niet gewoon.
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Ja man ik word ook altijd gediscrimineerd binnen de staff omdat ik Nederlands ben, ik moet er elke dag van huilen :cry: :cwy:

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post Apr 5 2021, 05:02 AM
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Ja er is een volk of ras in de geschiedenis van de mensheid zo gediscrimineerd als Nederlanse gamers op agesanc /s

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post Apr 5 2021, 05:56 AM
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xDDD halve of the anglosaxon community is deutch, between pirates and corsairs relationships are good xDDD

In any case as part of the community im sorry for the discrimination you as a collective have suffered. :(

Pst: Thanks for making the patchs to the responsables of the work.

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post Apr 5 2021, 08:13 AM
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thank you to the patch team for putting in countless hours of your time

will be interesting to see if anyone plays eggy at a high level after this

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post Apr 5 2021, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(IamMagic @ Apr 5 2021, 05:13 AM)
thank you to the patch team for putting in countless hours of your time

will be interesting to see if anyone plays eggy at a high level after this
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