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post Sep 3 2006, 01:49 PM
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Well replace 4p with OR or QT or some other map where the points are easily contestable and early game matters a lot.

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post Sep 3 2006, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(TheMothMan @ Sep 3 2006, 05:03 PM)
Yeah, I never really understood why it projected one in the first place.
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Because IG buildings are so big :)

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post Sep 3 2006, 06:12 PM
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Do you guys feel that i win in 1v1 maps more often than not
compared to 4P maps

best maps are 1v1 maps where at least you can take up your own points.
Also to note that OR is generally a bad map for IG, well all my losses in OR was aginst chaos :( but everything else in 1v1 is okay, i just find 4p maps really hard coz you can just bunker, plus if the player had some sense he would take map control, from then on it depends on your tech level and his.

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post Sep 3 2006, 09:58 PM
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Cs preists getting eviscerators, comissars getting powerfist/battleclaw and psykers with force weapons in tier3 along with an increase to comissar/psykser hp might not be such a bad idea after all ..

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post Sep 4 2006, 01:55 AM
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lol haxx....too much dowpro IG for you :D

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post Sep 4 2006, 08:24 AM
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mmm who said that IG should be defensive race? And more of that, who said that defensive race mean to turtle till t3?

IG should be race that winds up real slow, but than just steamroll over u with mass.

So why don’t give them upgrades to increase max squad size?

Mmm lets just say.

Guardsmen:

1st upgrade in HQ required armory. 100/50 +3 max squad size and reduce distance between squad members, pathing is such a crap, u cant micro guardsmen cuz they always got stuck in enemies melee.
2nd upgrade in HQ required t2. 100/50 +3 max squad size reduce distance between members too

Commie:

Give back moral immunity, hard cap 1.

Ig buildings:

As ballamen proposed +10% damage with 3 bunkered units.
HB turrets and bunkers -90% damage to buildings.

CS:

Liked idea of moving priest to t2.
Psykers CotMS casting time reduced to 1 sec, effect should last longer too.
Psykers Strip Soul damage increase by 10%.

Sentinels:

Should start with multi lasgun, and have ability to change weapon (for the price) to heavy flamer or autocannon. That feature exists in WA data files, although it wasn’t included in release.

Upgrade (thx to ballamen again) changes sents amour from veh_low to veh_med. Price some what 100/75.

Also whole t3 of all races must be reconsidered and should receive a massive nerf. So t1 and t2 units can feel comfortly themselves in t3.

PS. Anyway, who cares.


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post Sep 4 2006, 08:29 AM
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And remove overwatch function from game compleatly. =)

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post Sep 4 2006, 08:30 AM
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Lets first see how DC is like and the balance of it, since its bound to be different compared to WA, just as WA was different to DOW.

i think its safe to say, there will be no "hotfix's" before DC comes out anyways
so i think, that talking about balancing right now is falling to deaf ear's
relic wont answer and make the patch before DC, i rather them to fix DC first

i heard Necron are still not right and needed testing
any updates on that guys?

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post Sep 4 2006, 10:21 PM
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well daethi, i just find it sad that ig is still not a defensive race and completely outta game in 1vs1 atm,

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post Sep 5 2006, 05:58 AM
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but they are defensive,
but for their cost,
its a different story.

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post Oct 5 2006, 10:55 AM
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IG are overnerfed imo tbh..

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post Oct 5 2006, 11:12 AM
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couldnt they just make buildings stronger and building guns longer ranged so that they can't be ran over in tier 1 by basic units?

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post Oct 5 2006, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(Israel Fitzpatrik @ Oct 5 2006, 01:12 PM)
couldnt they just make buildings stronger and building guns longer ranged so that they can't be ran over in tier 1 by basic units?
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i think they need the chance to fight and maibe even get map control. or at least some part of it ^^ .

The idea of "ig without Commi is capper, with commie is fighter is good, but ig with comie should have to fight equal to equal with oter races fighters :/

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post Oct 5 2006, 11:28 AM
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maybe ig squads should start with commies?

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post Oct 5 2006, 06:07 PM
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lol !!

his a mini-hero
produced from HQ



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