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post Nov 27 2012, 12:46 PM
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This strat is semi-ff but have any pros experimented with a TP semi-ff or dual-TP semi-ff or naked FF with French??

I have a copy of a dual TP naked FF with French but not sure if its recommended at higher levels ...

This build order enables a 6:40 fortress time with 21 cdb and 2 Trade Posts
The Build Order
Discovery Age
-Send 3 cdb to collect food crates. 2 on hunts
-As soon as you collect the 120 food (should be no later than 0:09) queue 1 cdb and send crate collector to hunts. The other cdb unpacks 100 wood, then moves to hunts
-Build 1 house
-Ship 3 cdb
-Age up with 14 cdb no later than 3:10. Aim for 3:00
Age with the Quartermaster (400 wood) Politician
Transition-Discovery/Colonial
-Split your cdbs so there are now 8 on food and 6 on gold. If you didn’t start with 200 wood, switch cdb off of the resource crate you did start with to wood. Once you have collected 100W, switch them back.
*Queue 3 cdb (so at 17 population)
Colonial Age
-Ship 4 cdb you should now be at 21/20 pop
-Set the TC waypoint to G
-Have nearest cdb collect the wood crates
-Should now have 500 wood build 2 Trade Posts w exp then exp to recon enemy base
-Your 4 cdb shipment should arrive shortly before your 2nd cdb is completed
-Ship 700W
-Once your 3rd cdb has been created you should have the 1200 food/1000 gold for fortress ready. Age no later than 6:20, aiming for 6:05-6:10
-You now have 21 cdb and 2 TPs, ready for fortress age
Age with Fast-Age politician

Thanks for any advice

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post Nov 27 2012, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(cam44 @ Nov 27 2012, 05:46 PM)
This strat is semi-ff but have any pros experimented with a TP semi-ff or dual-TP semi-ff or naked FF with French??

I have a copy of a dual TP naked FF with French but not sure if its recommended at higher levels ...

This build order enables a 6:40 fortress time with 21 cdb and 2 Trade Posts
The Build Order
Discovery Age
-Send 3 cdb to collect food crates.  2 on hunts
-As soon as you collect the 120 food (should be no later than 0:09) queue 1 cdb and send crate collector to hunts.  The other cdb unpacks 100 wood, then moves to hunts
-Build 1 house
-Ship 3 cdb
-Age up with 14 cdb no later than 3:10. Aim for 3:00
Age with the Quartermaster (400 wood) Politician
Transition-Discovery/Colonial
-Split your cdbs so there are now 8 on food and 6 on gold.  If you didn’t start with 200 wood, switch cdb off of the resource crate you did start with to wood.  Once you have collected 100W, switch them back.
*Queue 3 cdb (so at 17 population)
Colonial Age
-Ship 4 cdb  you should now be at 21/20 pop
-Set the TC waypoint to G
-Have nearest cdb collect the wood crates
-Should now have 500 wood build 2 Trade Posts w exp then exp to recon enemy base
-Your 4 cdb shipment should arrive shortly before your 2nd cdb is completed
-Ship 700W
-Once your 3rd cdb has been created you should have the 1200 food/1000 gold for fortress ready.  Age no later than 6:20, aiming for 6:05-6:10
-You now have 21 cdb and 2 TPs, ready for fortress age
Age with Fast-Age politician

Thanks for any advice
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you forgot the early market. if fre does 14 vil age they can and should always make a market in age1.

http://pkclan.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=970

there the opening till age with early market is explained.


the strat you suggest is not really viable in any mu. except perhaps vs ports. otherwise the 2nd tp can never be defended and if they do any kind of age2 opening you are most likely doomed.

it can only really work on texas.

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post Nov 27 2012, 01:22 PM
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Thanks very much for the info!

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post Nov 27 2012, 01:28 PM
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You can do the TP ff making huss like a standard semi ff, just more eco heavy (and thus a bit more vulnerable). Check Umeu's recs he has some.

French can also FF with 400w or 200g+tower. It may work vs ottos.

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i used to do a 5 cav semi in mainly french mirrors, who was really efficient vs mirror strat and defensive builds, aswell vs brits (who usually boom and stay defensive early on) and can work aswell vs dutch

age 14 cdb market + 3 ups (sometimes vills hp / attack up, depends)
4 cdb first (steel traps, 2 or 3 houses + stable)
when the 5 cav are trained ship 700g and go raid

then its all about having a good macro and timing to have just enought res to age up (fast age ofc)

21 cdb, stable up + cav disturbing the opponent, good eco, average aging time is about 7:35 though i often did it by 7:25, which is a decent time for any ff civs
not to mention the "surprise" effect


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This Strategy is Excelent ;) For me Semi-FF is Perfect for French! I think that with this tactic much noobs Became Strong Player with French ^^

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post Jul 29 2013, 02:57 PM
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imo 8 cav semi is better. same build order though. because you have more cav to raid and at the same time you have more xp so you can fastage and have shipping ready in age 3. with only a slightly slower agetime



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