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[mymF]_Master vs [hope]Flamed, Spanish vs Sioux on Hispaniola
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post Oct 20 2007, 03:37 AM
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Ahh... Master :wub:

Wish Hades was a civ in AOE3! Those were the days.... :D

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post Oct 20 2007, 06:27 AM
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QUOTE(masonthecool @ Oct 20 2007, 03:02 AM)
spies have bonus vs pistoleros, or atleaste thats what braidon told me.

also if you have the intention to rush sioux you would pick a deck as such

rod/pike doesnt work? most sioux go for ff vs spain, and if he does do age 2 im sure the spain player is smart enough to scout and make some xbows.


just look at the stats of Willpowers streakand his great sucess vs 2250+ sioux players with the very same spain rush. thats what leads me to think that its a good strat to do vs sioux as spain, and i have had great success with it.

and for the dragoon/lancer i was refering to vs wakina/RR like what he did in this game.
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As it has been said, spies do NOT have a bonus vs pistos, believe it or not. I'll leave it as that, look it up in MNBob's stats or w/e if you want to.

"rod/pike doesnt work? most sioux go for ff vs spain, and if he does do age 2 im sure the spain player is smart enough to scout and make some xbows."

Haha, maybe you havent ever faced a decent Sioux, but I can tell you its not especially hard to spot some wood vills etc, switch all vills to wood in a hurry basically and get a WH in your base up. Then just spam cets, ship 4 bears, then cet/club/cav. And no, "a few xbows" wont beat that I'm afraid.

"and for the dragoon/lancer i was refering to vs wakina/RR like what he did in this game."

Well I guess Flamed is rusty (like he told me himself) and doesn't know the best, latest Sioux FF BOs yet. But EVERY sioux I've ever faced as Spain or seen in recs etc did AR/wakina. Its just better.

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post Oct 20 2007, 06:50 AM
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I got the impression Flamed was simply fooling around...
Knowing he ahd the better micro, and was pretty much safe anyways after he killed tohse 2 falcs so easily... He could jsut play around with firepit and outboom/mass you :\

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post Oct 20 2007, 07:43 AM
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he did remember flamed had +70 vills by the end of the game while master had around 50 ^_^

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post Oct 20 2007, 08:20 AM
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@thrad:
anyone have spain vs sioux rec. where a spain win without rushes?
i mean a standart double ff game? what combo? duno,i think spain has not much chance!

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post Oct 20 2007, 09:23 PM
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age 2 sioux cant beat age 2 spain anyways dopple... train xbows ship your rod which beat cetan and make wardogs.. -_-

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post Oct 20 2007, 09:36 PM
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If spain goes age 2 vs me I will normally lose. It seems to me that xbow/musk/shipped rods/dogs are > my cetan and bears w/e.

And someone said just look for wood villes. But, I can't tell you how many times I see a bunch of villes on wood, then switch my eco around to fight age 2. then right when I hit colo I see a tp go up...

Needless to say gg at that point. Imo spain is not easy at all to predict what they're doing. Also imo fortress spain should never beat sioux. Ar/wakina is > lancer/goon I am totally sure. Must GOOD spain will go hussar/goon because they know lancers will die like flies to the ar. And even better spain fight age 2.

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post Oct 21 2007, 06:07 AM
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if they go pure ff w/ tp and you prepared for colonial do 15 club + 4 AR harass up urself?

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post Oct 22 2007, 08:24 PM
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No you would get over-ran by their fortress army immediatly. Best you would be able to do is take out their tower if you know where it's at. You just have to try and guess right :/

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post Oct 23 2007, 05:47 AM
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or do AR semi ff and use TRANSFORMERS card ? RR pown most spain shipments, and combine with few AR and continue to pressure?

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post Oct 23 2007, 02:11 PM
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Perhaps that might work, untill of course you run out of rr ;)

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post Oct 23 2007, 02:12 PM
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You can run out of RR? Do they suddenly disappear as a building icon @ the corral? WTF?! O_O

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post Oct 23 2007, 02:21 PM
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He's talking about age 2 I thought?

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post Oct 23 2007, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(I_Hydra_I @ Oct 23 2007, 11:47 AM)
or do AR semi ff and use TRANSFORMERS card ? RR pown most spain shipments, and combine with few AR and continue to pressure?
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post Oct 23 2007, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(I_Hydra_I @ Oct 23 2007, 10:47 AM)
or do AR semi ff and use TRANSFORMERS card ? RR pown most spain shipments, and combine with few AR and continue to pressure?
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