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sCa|Phoenix vs ToT|Santiago, space marine vs ork on Shrine of Excellion
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Santiago4ever
post Sep 11 2006, 06:03 PM
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(IMG:./images/maps/dow/shrine_of_excellion.jpg) Team 1
(IMG:./images/races/dow/space_marine.jpg) sCa|Phoenix
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Game Details:
Game Version: WA 1.5 Start Resources: Standard
Game Type: Rated Resources Rate: Standard
Played: 11 Sep 06 Match Length: Average (10-30 minutes)
Winner: Game Speed: Normal
Map: Shrine of Excellion Saved Name: DS14061_sCa_Pho_v_ToT_San
Max Players: 2 File Size (zipped): 90.1KB
Win Conditions: Annihilate    
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ToT.Invite game 5/5

SoE was my choice for the last map between us.

Ok so this guy has ASM massed me two games in a row and won, oddses are that he will try it again since he knows what happens when he goes tacs. Lets see how he likes this build.

I do my usual rush on this map, only I go with gen instead of banner. I aim the rush at hurting his econ while I strengthen my own and build up so that his ASMs can't do anything to me until he gets melta's. I then go for trukks and some nobs, and when I say trukks I mean lots of dakka dakka, he gets hellfires again so I add in some tankbustahs. Trukks rips through his ASMs and I push him off his 2 relics and crit and then goes into his base and kills his hellfires.

So I managed to win the Winner Bracket final against Phoenix, will be interesting to see who I'll face in the final, people are starting to catch on how to play against me :thumbsup:

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post Sep 11 2006, 06:22 PM
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So basically, ASM > shoota rush. Gen build(Ork) > ASM. Shoota rush > Gen Build (SM)

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post Sep 11 2006, 06:26 PM
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try making a gen build work on OR though :p

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post Sep 11 2006, 06:36 PM
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Slow could do it, but it'd probably involve 3 hqs and 40 gens :p

edit: Now that I think about it... a 2 hq build with inflitrated grots might just actually work vs an ASM build, and it would be absolutely hilarious.

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post Sep 11 2006, 09:53 PM
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Xerxes you forgot one other situation.

Gen build (ork) > Gen build (sm)

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post Sep 12 2006, 04:00 AM
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I normally wanted to play JM as 3rd map, but we couldnt get it working. I alrdy knew I lost, so I picked OR and played a bit crazy. I managed to get a win Oo
And as santi said, I dont see a way vs rines vs this crazy green guy here who somehow just pwnz my lil emperorfighter :D

ggs, especially the 4th game.

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post Sep 12 2006, 04:44 AM
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Congrats for a both perfect players!

WAAARRRGGGHHH!!!

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post Sep 12 2006, 08:35 AM
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Thank you for sharing your replays!

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post Sep 12 2006, 11:58 AM
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Phoenix you think that asm is the only way to go against orks then?

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post Sep 12 2006, 12:09 PM
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Do it every time though and I'll start countering it every time as well >:3

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True

I'll rephrase the question: Do you think that ASM is the way to go against an ork who goes waagh first?

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post Sep 12 2006, 03:52 PM
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as I said, I knew id loose with tacs, i won 2 with asm, and i know ES is an orkmap. So i just tried to do it again ^^

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post Sep 12 2006, 04:20 PM
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I'd go tacs+fc+tacs tacs (maybe another tac squad depending on the situation...) 2xscouts on this map and press on the side where his boyhut is. Imo you need to end the game quick on this map as sm vs ork if you want to have a shot at winning.

Well played by both!

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post Sep 12 2006, 05:09 PM
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aah, but if he does that build and I do my normal rushbuild then he's in big doodoo >:3

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QUOTE(Santiago4ever @ Sep 12 2006, 10:09 PM)
aah, but if he does that build and I do my normal rushbuild then he's in big doodoo >:3
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Maphack? Liek you would know what BO he is doing :w00t:



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